Wanted to add something here. Constraints and limitations to individual choices are born in the emergent structures arising from the projections and collective assertions of the many individual conscious decisions vis-a-vis the common good and how we institutionalise the outcome into the society we live in to make it (hopefully) as equitable and fair as we possibly can.. and today, we need to think on a global scale... free will and the collective conscience, seven billion but ONE world... we need to reassert a common vision and assume leadership.

What a wise way of putting things, Steve - from a very wise man. Nice one!

I have problems with the reincarnation part too.. angels.. and most of all, I am weary on a political level to attribute people's condition to past lives or Karma! Anything can be justified... Religion does that well too. It can be turned into a powerful coercive force and like religion instill guilt and fear rather than critical thinking, collective empowerment and self-(individual) determination....albeit constrained by outside forces and resulting options to maneouvre one's life. It is tough sometimes but that's what we have... I hope despite the low times, that I have the human 'breath' and integrity to live life to the best of my ability in whatever circumstances. I will try... and when I fail, I hope I will manage to pick myself up, try again and live another day... Sometimes I doubt this capacity.. but somehow, it seems to come around again. Best wishes to all

Plebs plc here........would you care to put that in separate sentences? I haven't understood the 'Constraints and limitations' paragraph.

Constraints / limitations: OK..the government is reviewing the fees for students and recently the CBI concluded that University fees will have to go up to £5000. So who can afford this? We know it is unlikely to be equitable. So what are we prepared to do as individuals to imprint our will into changing, creating the institutional rules that govern our lifes and the choices made available to the majority? If, as individuals, we are not prepared to take on our share of collective responsibility for change.. we set up the scene for the outcomes: i.e. the next generation will have to pay £5000 fees to get an education (as an 'institutional rule').. many from poorer backgrounds will not be able to afford an education (constraints and limitations for the less well off).. We are outraged at the City bonuses... Are we prepared to REALLY put our neck out to make sure ANY government understand that this is NOT acceptable. We are member of the collective (tax payers) who have rescued the flipping banks, will not tolerate the liberties that the financial dynasties are taking... Again, assertion of individual wills into collective action will either enable us to remove unwanted 'institutional rules' or let them created new 'constraints and limitations' on the redistribution of income and claim on capital... Am I being obscure? I know it is hard work.. but this is the way it is. We reap what we sow if we are not prepared to do something about it (individually and collectively... )

Me neither? Nor I? or me? Confused plc

I know only to well what happens if you are from a poor background and cannot afford university fees. My son who has just won a place at a top London university had to turn to charities to fund him on top of grants, bursaries,and student loans.The student loan means he will be leaving with £30.000 projected debt. I for one don't see why students should come out of university owing such a large amount anyway. My generation didn't.Had the fees been £5000, he wouldn't have been able to go- despite having worked day and night, and being very bright. If these fees do go up this will mean my daughter( who faces university next year will not be able to go either. So yes I would like to take peaceful action, not just over this but also over many things to do with the way this country is run- but collectively it is far better-(united we stand divided we fall) anyone know of any marches or similar?)Much more effective than a letter from one individual to their MP. I say bring on a new winter of discontent!! The problem is as I have said before- we need a completely new style of government- parliamentary reform should happen now- what has happened to democracy -(certainly nothing the government is doing at present is by the people for the people, of the people as far as I'm concerned. Everyone I speak to is fed up to the back teeth with this government, and the EU. What makes me so cross is that everyone complains but noone is actually organising anything to do anything about it. But then maybe like me they are frightened- Ian Thomlinson is still fresh on my mind after the G20 march, and also I was concerned to receive an e-mail from the group I belong to opposing the third Heathrow runway which stated the police have a list of activists names... My music for today is Walking on the moon by the Police, as I am now thinking of 1979 and all the strikes...

Seems you were right on the 9th about the Russian threat,just what was on that ship??? and can Obama realy drop his guard!!

The problem with marches is they don't have a lasting effect and too often they are ignored. What's really needed is a group of people who are prepared to stand, as a united party under one voice, for the rights of the common person and to shape our future with the legislators. The only reason why so many people don't, is partly due to finances and partly due to lack of organisation. I totally agree with you there is a sense of frustration, anger and downright disgust at how our country is being mismanaged and how we're all being lied to (again)! If you really want to change society you have to do it from the inside, otherwise you're just spitting in the wind, my friend.

You sound like you know what's needed to change things- so why don't you start something-how about a "Return to commonsense for Britain" party or "Make Britain Great again" party- otherwise we'll all be sat here this time next year saying the same thing..Initiate the idea- and funding would surely follow... And after raeding this mornings reports on the G20 summit in Pittsburgh with the behaviour of the demonstrators I am greatly saddened particularly as Greenpeace have been mentioned.. I joined them thinking they are bound by peaceful principles- but then they can't be resposible for all their members... All this unrest both in the UK and abroad- it is fascinating astrologically, I have been reading that it's all tied up with Pluto in Capricorn.